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3dEdited

Interesting read, although clearly some excessive centering of the angelicism blog. It feels like we are always being told that the eclipsing of culture and the online happened first in Dimes square, which is less a historical fact than a retroactive pseudohistory in the vein of New York's longstanding (and earned) self perception as a home for The Factory, the subculture-as-cultural-progenitor. The internet, which is not one thing but rather a process agnostic to context or locality, can eclipse whenever and whatever, it is something on the order of capitalism, or other such xeno/exo/transcendent modalities. If we wanted to find the internet equivalent to 'the first community where capitalism eclipsed culture' (which is a debate critical theorists love having), candidates prior to Dimes and external to the art-culture-narrative machine known as NYC are plentiful. That's more or less an obvious fact. The interesting question is not in which subculture the eclipsing of the online and culture took place, but rather why some subcultures, and not others, are prone to always making this claim, of engaging in self mythology. Dimes did not observe this first nor did it first happen there, and yet, people seem to consistently claim it is the case. Why is this? That is the interesting question. I would assume that the author is not just propagandizing in hopes to be included into the narrative they are passing along

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Like I said in my piece on transgression, just because DS is dead doesn't mean its influence is. Its influence is also in DC.

https://supculture.substack.com/p/the-shock-is-the-system

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